tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-63535302771376344.post7692432944018779162..comments2023-06-25T06:07:14.706-05:00Comments on O-L-I [Opinionated Layman's Input]: Parsing Feedback About What Women WearTim Laitinenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07659772910035894952noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-63535302771376344.post-10878532079430162612012-08-20T11:02:21.193-05:002012-08-20T11:02:21.193-05:00Anonymous, as a community of believers, we are to ...Anonymous, as a community of believers, we are to encourage each other and seek to put others before ourselves. If you truly care for your brothers and sisters in Christ you'll subordinate your needs and wants for the overall good of God's Kingdom. It's no wonder we have so many factions of evangelicalism, since this basic teaching is all but ignored in our hedonistic society. People who react negatively to these comments merely provide proof of this sad fact.Tim Laitinenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07659772910035894952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-63535302771376344.post-37857024608871067352012-08-18T14:27:53.555-05:002012-08-18T14:27:53.555-05:00And by that, I assume, you believe we are able to ...And by that, I assume, you believe we are able to overcome our sinful nature and not give in to temptations, regardless of what other people do and regardless being man or woman..?<br />If so, I agree with you. <br />I think people react because you seem to put too much blame on women's modesty or lack there of. While it might help being around properly dressed women or no women at all, it is kind of an illusion, cause the lust is still there. And if that is what men really want, to overcome the lust within, they must look for the source of it, and that's not women's immodesty. <br />If you really want to help men, you should help them follow Christ in jugding and overcome the sin in their own flesh. Women should do the same. We are not called to remain weak and keep stumbling, we are called to become strong in Christ, and nothing or no one can stop us from living a godly life and stand strong in temptations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-63535302771376344.post-72353754659022527362012-08-18T11:40:20.349-05:002012-08-18T11:40:20.349-05:00Anonymous, you ask what men should do? They shoul...Anonymous, you ask what men should do? They should do the same thing women should do: fall on their faces before our holy God and confess our sins to him - sins both of commission and omission, of attitude and action (or inaction) - and avoid those things and people who claim Christ yet refuse to make Him Lord of their lives. And then seek His peace and pursue it. Tim Laitinenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07659772910035894952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-63535302771376344.post-8149213468236892062012-08-18T08:40:28.222-05:002012-08-18T08:40:28.222-05:00Yeah, isn't that bizarre how Christ tells us t...Yeah, isn't that bizarre how Christ tells us to pluck our eye out if it tempts us. Funny that he doesn't tell us to immidiatly eliminate the objects we lust for, or to run away and hide in the woods.<br />Christ now that the sin is within us, and even if every singel woman in the world dressed in burka, it would never take away the lust. <br />A woman concerned about living for God and not man will find out what is immodest clothing, and she will not wear them. But it is not every man's business to teach her what to wear and not wear based pn wether it cause him to lust. That would be thousands and thousands of different opinions about what's modest and what's not, and none of them would even be close to eliminate men's lust. <br />Dressing immodest to entice, and to lust is both sin. But their existence is not dependant of each other. It's completely possible to commit one of them without causing others to commit the other one, and it would still be a sin. So obviously the solution is not to make sure the others doesn't cause me to sin - that would be impossible, you know that. And Christ wouldn't tell us to flee from sin and to not commit adultery in our hearts if it was impossible.<br />So I am wondering what do you suggest men do, when they find a church where all the women always wear, let's say long sleeves and feet long skirts, all loose fitting, and yet they still see immodest women every day, on the streets, on billboards, on TV, at work, everywhere.. what do they do? And even if we turned to the extreme methods used in Middle East, forbid immodest pictures, TV-shows, movies, magazines, keep all women indoors and out of work force, make them wear burkas all the time and punish those who don't - and men realize they STILL lust, what then? <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-63535302771376344.post-62562967160609879882012-08-16T09:44:55.766-05:002012-08-16T09:44:55.766-05:00OK, Florencia, I've heard back from my editor....OK, Florencia, I've heard back from my editor. She gives you permission to use the article, only they cannot have it translated. I trust you'll be able to? Thanks again!Tim Laitinenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07659772910035894952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-63535302771376344.post-65947833088841069012012-08-16T08:31:23.437-05:002012-08-16T08:31:23.437-05:00Wow, Argentina! Thank you for your kind words. T...Wow, Argentina! Thank you for your kind words. Technically, Crosswalk controls my articles for up to 2 years, so I've asked my editor there for official permission - and also checked to see if they have a Spanish translation. I know they have readers from around the world. I'll keep you posted! Tim Laitinenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07659772910035894952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-63535302771376344.post-51463205182093688332012-08-16T08:28:30.221-05:002012-08-16T08:28:30.221-05:00Yes, the recently departed Helen Gurley Brown has ...Yes, the recently departed Helen Gurley Brown has a lot of 'splaining to do before God.Tim Laitinenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07659772910035894952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-63535302771376344.post-52982036793000646742012-08-16T08:09:47.064-05:002012-08-16T08:09:47.064-05:00Hi! I´m from Argentina, and I read your article in...Hi! I´m from Argentina, and I read your article in Crosswalk, where I found a link to your blog. I completely agree with this, and I would like to use the article (a translation) with the young women in my church. Would that be OK? <br />Actually, as you say here, the way we women dress explains (unfortunately) why certain crimes happen. Sadly, this cannot be said and understood in any context, but this is something that happens beyond the church and beyond christians. I once took a cab, and looking at some girls crossing the street, the cab driver told me: "I hope the summer ends soon and women start wearing more clothes". Imagine! A man, not a Christian, as far as I know, wishing that! I felt really ashamed, I must say, for all of us who are not really aware of what we may cause and of the way we can provoke men. I try to be very careful, not only with the way I dress, but also with my attitude and words. It´s no use being dressed as a nun if you provoke with your words or attitude. But I am aware that it requires a lot of attention and effort, because I have to take in to account not only what I like, but also what it may cause in others. Sadly, the hard work and effort are not really much preached of this days... so, thank you for the article! Florenciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02510363941322229553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-63535302771376344.post-91767867341486397252012-08-15T14:05:01.825-05:002012-08-15T14:05:01.825-05:00What I saw in the article comments were a bunch of...What I saw in the article comments were a bunch of little girls stamping their feet, saying "I can do whatever I want and no one (particularly a stupid MAN) can tell me what to do."<br /><br />We've raised an entire generation of women with way too much "self-esteem" and way too little "self-respect" (or respect for anyone else, for that matter)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-63535302771376344.post-54519173922993316332012-08-15T14:01:19.468-05:002012-08-15T14:01:19.468-05:00As a guy, I was very thankful that you had the gut...As a guy, I was very thankful that you had the guts to write what you did. I fail to see why any woman would want to be a walking temptation. Your article is one of very few that addresses this topic. I think this is because there is a strong desire to not want to be judged by anyone. That as Americans, we are individualistic, and shouldn't have anyone tell us what to do.<br /><br />Dressing immodestly is disrespectful to men and to God. Thanks for bringing this issue to the fore.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com